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	<title>Comments on: Understanding the IP Multicast Helper-Map Command</title>
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		<title>By: Proxy Tunnel</title>
		<link>http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2008/05/06/understanding-the-ip-multicast-helper-map-command/#comment-3583</link>
		<dc:creator>Proxy Tunnel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So has anyone other than the poster given this a try, if so what was your result ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So has anyone other than the poster given this a try, if so what was your result ?</p>
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		<title>By: mpi</title>
		<link>http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2008/05/06/understanding-the-ip-multicast-helper-map-command/#comment-3458</link>
		<dc:creator>mpi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for the breakdown, is there a way you can do something similar for what they call router on a stick on multicast?

It will be great if you could explain the reachability issues for auto-rp with NBMA and all those " weird" register-stop messages :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for the breakdown, is there a way you can do something similar for what they call router on a stick on multicast?</p>
<p>It will be great if you could explain the reachability issues for auto-rp with NBMA and all those &#8221; weird&#8221; register-stop messages <img src='http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Barooq</title>
		<link>http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2008/05/06/understanding-the-ip-multicast-helper-map-command/#comment-1709</link>
		<dc:creator>Barooq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 23:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traceroute is UDP?

I really need some research :S
Anyway thanks a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traceroute is UDP?</p>
<p>I really need some research :S<br />
Anyway thanks a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593</title>
		<link>http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2008/05/06/understanding-the-ip-multicast-helper-map-command/#comment-1706</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an alternative if your version doesn't support broadcast SLA you can use extended traceroute:


Rack20R1#traceroute 
Protocol [ip]: 
Target IP address: 255.255.255.255
Source address: 173.20.12.1
Numeric display [n]: 
Timeout in seconds [3]: 
Probe count [3]: 1000
Minimum Time to Live [1]: 
Maximum Time to Live [30]: 
Port Number [33434]: 33434
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]: 
Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 255.255.255.255</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an alternative if your version doesn&#8217;t support broadcast SLA you can use extended traceroute:</p>
<p>Rack20R1#traceroute<br />
Protocol [ip]:<br />
Target IP address: 255.255.255.255<br />
Source address: 173.20.12.1<br />
Numeric display [n]:<br />
Timeout in seconds [3]:<br />
Probe count [3]: 1000<br />
Minimum Time to Live [1]:<br />
Maximum Time to Live [30]:<br />
Port Number [33434]: 33434<br />
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:<br />
Type escape sequence to abort.<br />
Tracing the route to 255.255.255.255</p>
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		<title>By: Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593</title>
		<link>http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2008/05/06/understanding-the-ip-multicast-helper-map-command/#comment-1705</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barooq,

Apparently this was filed as a bug and changed.  Per the bug toolkit:

 CSCin97871 Bug Details
Invalid source address 255.255.255.255 accepted in all IP SLA probes

Symptom:
-------

Operation parameters such as the source-ipaddress and destination-ipaddress
can be configured using an all broadcast address as a valid input.
This is however incorrect as operations cannot currently handle responses
from multiple destinations for a single request.

Conditions:
---------

No special conditions exist and all operations that include
source-ipaddress and/or destination-ipaddress accept the erronous input.


Workaround:
----------

Do not configure broadcast addresses for source and destination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barooq,</p>
<p>Apparently this was filed as a bug and changed.  Per the bug toolkit:</p>
<p> CSCin97871 Bug Details<br />
Invalid source address 255.255.255.255 accepted in all IP SLA probes</p>
<p>Symptom:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Operation parameters such as the source-ipaddress and destination-ipaddress<br />
can be configured using an all broadcast address as a valid input.<br />
This is however incorrect as operations cannot currently handle responses<br />
from multiple destinations for a single request.</p>
<p>Conditions:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>No special conditions exist and all operations that include<br />
source-ipaddress and/or destination-ipaddress accept the erronous input.</p>
<p>Workaround:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Do not configure broadcast addresses for source and destination.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Carroll</title>
		<link>http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2008/05/06/understanding-the-ip-multicast-helper-map-command/#comment-1688</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 06:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always another informative post!  I look forward to some security posts soon.  Anything in the works?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always another informative post!  I look forward to some security posts soon.  Anything in the works?</p>
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		<title>By: Barooq</title>
		<link>http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2008/05/06/understanding-the-ip-multicast-helper-map-command/#comment-1597</link>
		<dc:creator>Barooq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 20:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian
I am unable to use Ip SLA monitor for testing purposes in 12.4 IOS as the command doesnt take a 255.255.255.255 address in destination address. While it works in 12.3 IOS.
The question is how can I test it if I get the IOS where I cant schedule SLA with destination address 255.255.255.255?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian<br />
I am unable to use Ip SLA monitor for testing purposes in 12.4 IOS as the command doesnt take a 255.255.255.255 address in destination address. While it works in 12.3 IOS.<br />
The question is how can I test it if I get the IOS where I cant schedule SLA with destination address 255.255.255.255?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593</title>
		<link>http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2008/05/06/understanding-the-ip-multicast-helper-map-command/#comment-1595</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 19:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, R2 would act as the last hop router, with the "ip multicast helper-map 224.1.2.3" followed by the directed broadcast of the link to R3.  R3 would be the first hop router with the "ip multicast helper-map broadcast 224.1.2.3" command on the link facing R2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, R2 would act as the last hop router, with the &#8220;ip multicast helper-map 224.1.2.3&#8243; followed by the directed broadcast of the link to R3.  R3 would be the first hop router with the &#8220;ip multicast helper-map broadcast 224.1.2.3&#8243; command on the link facing R2.</p>
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		<title>By: Nizami</title>
		<link>http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2008/05/06/understanding-the-ip-multicast-helper-map-command/#comment-1592</link>
		<dc:creator>Nizami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 18:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>then R2 acts as first hop router.
on its interface to R3
ip multicast helper-map broadcast _GrAddr_ _ACL_

on R3 interace leading to R2
ip directed broadcast
on R3 interface leading to R4
ip multicast helper-map _GrAddr_ _broadcast address of segment between R2-R3_  _ACL_
am i right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>then R2 acts as first hop router.<br />
on its interface to R3<br />
ip multicast helper-map broadcast _GrAddr_ _ACL_</p>
<p>on R3 interace leading to R2<br />
ip directed broadcast<br />
on R3 interface leading to R4<br />
ip multicast helper-map _GrAddr_ _broadcast address of segment between R2-R3_  _ACL_<br />
am i right?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593</title>
		<link>http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2008/05/06/understanding-the-ip-multicast-helper-map-command/#comment-1589</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 15:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be the same design logic.  If you have SW1 sending a multicast to R2, R2 could convert this to a directed broadcast to the link to R3, then R3 could take the broadcast and convert it back into a multicast.  The only thing that is changing is the placement of the first hop and last hop router.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be the same design logic.  If you have SW1 sending a multicast to R2, R2 could convert this to a directed broadcast to the link to R3, then R3 could take the broadcast and convert it back into a multicast.  The only thing that is changing is the placement of the first hop and last hop router.</p>
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		<title>By: Nizami</title>
		<link>http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2008/05/06/understanding-the-ip-multicast-helper-map-command/#comment-1579</link>
		<dc:creator>Nizami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 05:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks,Brian.Great explanation.
but what if we have
SW1-R1-R2-R3-R4-SW2

and PIM is enabled on all interfaces,except R3 interface leading to R2. 
then how to use multicast-helper to get traffic from SW1 to SW2?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks,Brian.Great explanation.<br />
but what if we have<br />
SW1-R1-R2-R3-R4-SW2</p>
<p>and PIM is enabled on all interfaces,except R3 interface leading to R2.<br />
then how to use multicast-helper to get traffic from SW1 to SW2?</p>
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